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How far can a Triple (3-ply) 2 × 8 beam span carrying 8 ft joists?

A triple 2x8 Douglas Fir-Larch beam carrying 8-ft joists
8′ 3″between posts
AWC DCA 6 Table 3A / IRC R507.5 — 40 psf live, 10 psf dead, No. 2 grade, wet service
joists from ONE side only8′ 3″ post to post8′ 3″triple 2x8Douglas Fir-Larchcarrying 8 ft joistsoverhang 2′ 1″AWC DCA 6 Table 3A
Maximum beam span, post to post8′ 3″
Maximum overhang past the postone quarter of the actual span, not of this maximum2′ 1″
Posts needed across a 20 ft side4posts
Posts needed across a 30 ft side5posts
Species groupDCA 6 puts all six in one column — the refractory species are stronger on paper, but the incising factor applied when they are treated cancels most of the differenceDouglas Fir-Larch, Hem-Fir, SPF, Redwood, Western Cedars
— Same size, other ply counts —
Double 2x85′ 8″
Triple 2x8the beam on this page8′ 3″
— Other sizes, triple —
triple 2x66′ 5″
triple 2x88′ 3″
triple 2x1010′ 2″
triple 2x1211′ 10″
— Same beam, other joist spans —
Joists spanning 6 ft9′ 5″
Joists spanning 8 ft8′ 3″
Joists spanning 10 ft7′ 4″
Joists spanning 12 ft6′ 8″
Joists spanning 14 ft6′ 2″
Joists spanning 16 ft5′ 9″
Joists spanning 18 ft5′ 5″

Notes

  • The column is the joist span, not the load width. This page answers for joists that span 8 feet. A common mistake is to halve the joist span first because the beam only carries half of it — the table has already done that. Read the column that matches the joists you are actually building.
  • A triple is the largest built-up beam in the table. If 8′ 3″ is not enough, the next steps are a shorter beam span with an extra post, or a glued laminated beam under DCA 6 Table 3B — not a fourth ply, which the table does not cover.
  • Species is worth a foot. The same beam is 9′ 3″ in Southern Pine and 8′ 3″ in the Douglas Fir / cedar group. Buying whatever the yard has in stock quietly changes the post spacing you are allowed.
  • Joists from both sides double the column. DCA 6 assumes joists bear from one side only. If joists frame in symmetrically from opposite sides of the same beam, look up twice the joist span — 8 ft joists from both sides means reading the 16 ft column.
  • Four assumptions, and all four have to hold. 40 psf live plus 10 psf dead, No. 2 grade, wet service, single level. A hot tub, a roof over the deck, a planter wall, or a high-snow jurisdiction all put you outside this table entirely.
  • The building official has the last word. Local amendments to the IRC are common and are frequently stricter. Pull the permit before buying lumber — a beam sized from the wrong column fails with people standing on it.

A Triple (3-ply) 2 × 8 carrying 8 ft joists

8′ 3″ between posts. Overhang past the post is capped at 2′ 1″.

The column people read wrong

The table column is the joist span — how far the joists run — not the load width. The beam only carries half that load, and the table has already accounted for it. Halving the joist span before looking it up is the most common way to oversize a beam, and doubling it is the most common way to undersize one.

The one case where you do double: joists framing in symmetrically from both sides of the same beam. DCA 6 assumes joists bear from one side only, so two sides means reading the column for twice the joist span.

Ply or size

Adding a ply and going up a size both buy span, and they cost differently. A third ply is one more board of the same length. Going up a size changes every board, and often changes the hangers and the ledger detail with it.

The table above compares both at this joist span, in this species. Read the two rows against what the lumber yard actually charges — the cheaper answer is not the same in every market.

What this table does not cover

Four assumptions carry the whole thing: 40 psf live plus 10 psf dead, No. 2 grade, wet service conditions, single-level deck. A hot tub, a roof, a planter wall, or a jurisdiction with higher snow load all put the deck outside it.

Beyond a triple, DCA 6 stops. The next steps are a shorter beam span with an extra post, or a glued laminated beam under Table 3B — not a fourth ply.

Nearby sizes

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